PRICING, HOW TO APPLY & FAQ
Our kittens are $2,500 on a pet contract. We offer a 2 yr heath warranty and lifetime support. Our parents are all DNA tested clear for HCM, SMA, Pk-deficiency, PKD and have heart echocardiograms done!
E-mail us at ObsidianFireMaineCoons@gmail.com for more info
We do occasionally place kittens with approved breeders.
Frequently Asked Questions
Please reach us at obsidianfiremainecoons@gmail.com if you cannot find an answer to your question.
- We are located in Tucson, Arizona.
- We are able to meet at the Tucson airport if you'd like to fly in to pick up your baby.
- We usually meet in Phoenix once per litter at no charge for families who want to drive to pick up their babies in person or we will meet at the Phoenix airport for families flying in that same day.
- We have an amazing experienced and reasonable flight nanny that we use for all other flight deliveries. The kittens are flown with the nanny in the cabin so they are not alone. (This flight nanny also only flies by reservation and does not use stand by service!)
- We do NOT ship our kittens as cargo!
- Our pet kittens are $2,500 and go on spay/neuter contracts.
- We do not and will never charge more for different colors, genders or number of toes (polydactyl) as they do not cost anymore to raise.
- We do occasionally offer kittens to approved catteries.
- We LOVE when our babies go to the same home! We give priority to families choosing more than one kitten and do offer a discount of $200 each for multiple kittens from the same or close litters (within 2 months if you let me know in advance you are looking for 2 kittens together)
- We also offer $200 off for returning families on their next kitten
- Our kittens usually go home at 12 weeks. There are certain milestones they must hit before they leave. We do not allow them to leave before 12 weeks of age.
- It is vital that kittens stay with their mom for a minimum of 12 weeks. There are several studies that indicate the importance of that extra to develop mentally. Also, there is an increased chance of aggression in kittens taken from their mom before 12 weeks of age. ( citation https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28871130/ )
- They will have had multiple wormings, age appropriate vaccines and will be microchipped. They will be registered with TICA, however papers will not be sent until proof of spay/neuter is provided.
- We currently run on a waitlist.
- All deposits are $500 and are non refundable but they can be moved to another litter. The deposit goes toward the final purchase price.
- The balance is due at 10 weeks. (Or on pickup if you’re local) We only use Zelle for electronic payments or can accept checks but they must have 2 weeks to clear.
- We now have 2 wait list options. A priority early deposit list and a standard list.
- The standard wait list:
I now have a list that I add all interested and pre approved families to that includes their color and gender preferences. Once I have a confirmed pregnancy, I reach out or post on my FB page to let me know if you’re interested in that litter. Then once the babies are born and I see what colors/genders I have (after I go through my early deposit list) I reach out again to see who is interested in that litter.
Once the babies are 2 weeks old and past the critical first weeks, I then start taking deposits on color/gender preference (not individual kittens unless there is only 1 of that color/gender) If I have more than 1 of a color/gender, I wait until 6-7 weeks to reserve individual kittens after I have assessed their temperament and personalities to see which families they will fit with the most. If there is more than one baby that will fit with a family, I go in order of deposit and allow the families to choose between those babies giving them my recommendation on their personalities.
- The priority early deposit list:
This list gives priority options before the standard list. I have started taking a few early deposits (still $500) per litter or per color/gender depending on the parents and what I’m expecting. I do not take more than 2-3 per color/litter as I don’t want anyone waiting too long on the list unless they really want to wait for one of my babies.
This gives more people a chance to get a baby from me instead of having a long list that takes forever or having anyone feeling obligated to wait if they want to find another breeder before I have a baby available. I have only started doing this at the request of some families that are willing to specifically wait for my babies and don’t want to go through the standard waitlist process above.
- I always retain first pick option and I do give priority to my previous kitten families or families wanting 2 kittens together so I may not take as many early deposits on certain litters.
I know this kind of confusing so please reach out if you have any questions but I try to keep this as fair as possible. I don’t like the idea of releasing my kittens on a certain date to reserve as that tends to cause a frenzy and increase the chances of someone just reserving a kitten based on looks or because it’s available and not necessarily what they are looking for. I’m looking for families that want a kitten that will fit their lifestyles not the first available.
- We do weekly live streams when we have babies that are at least 4-5 weeks old. These can be accessed on our Facebook page on Sundays at 5pm (AZ time) and we do updated pictures weekly. You can also go to our Facebook page to see our previous live streams.
- If you are local, we can meet in person at our local park that has a very active police presence.
- We do not allow visits to our home. See below for the reasons why.
* Scams are increasingly becoming a problem! It is important to know what a scam site looks like. See below for a list of red flags.
- Unfortunately I no longer allow visitors to our home. We lost 4 of the 7 babies from one of our very first litters very horribly after mom contracted something from a family that did not follow our safety protocols. I have experienced many things during my years in breeding, rescue and rehab but this almost made me throw in the towel. It is not something we can risk again. There is very little that can be done for neonates other than trying to support their symptoms and is gut-wrenching to know that it could have been avoided.
- There is also a security issue. We've had people try to break into our house to steal our babies years ago when we lived in Florida. Fortunately, we had a Doberman that deterred them away. It was not a family that visited but someone they told. There have also been several reports recently of breeders being held at gunpoint.
- This is why I like to do the live streams. I enjoy interacting with the families and them getting to see the babies play while keeping us and our babies safe.
- This is a very hot debate! After talking with our vet and several other vets, including specialists at UC Davis, they have seen in increase in femoral head repair in heavy large breed cats that were desexed prior to full development. Growing up in the world of large breed dogs, we have seen firsthand the issues that can arise from early desexing so we have decided not to take that risk.
- We prefer our kittens be spayed/neutered when they are older and finished growing. Usually a minimum of 6 months but prefer closer to a year if possible. We believe that large cats should wait until the growth plates completely close before being fixed and their hormones are vital for that development.
- We have a very extensive contract requiring your kitten to be spayed/neutered and we will enforce it to the full extent of the law.
- We are also looking into SpaySecure as an option going forward but that will come with a $60 fee.
- This is a very hot debate! I sadly get 3x the number of inquiries for males as I do for females. This is the reason some breeders choose to price their males higher. Size is the number one factor for families wanting a male. I do not judge a family for their choices however, it important to understand the differences before making that decision.
- I DO NOT guarantee size or weight! Just like humans, it's genetic!
- I do not and nor will I ever breed for size. Maine Coons are already a very large breed. All that extra weight on their hips and joints are not good! Most families tend to overfeed their cats resulting in heavier than normal body frames (this is also why going by weight is widely subjective!)
- I love to advocate for HEALTHY weights! A cat should have " Ribs, spine, and hip bones easily felt and may be visible. A waist and abdominal tuck that can be seen when viewed from above and side." (citation https://www.petobesityprevention.org/pet-weight-check/ )
- Here is a great scientific study on the correlation between body condition and health issues (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9621878/ )
- Vlad is an active stud and usually weighs 18-19lbs but he is very long and lean! He does not eat as much while the girls are cycling but he is actually the perfect body condition. My females are all larger than any of the domestic cats I have ever owned with the smallest being 12lbs and the largest 17lbs! (My domestic rescue is 7lbs of chunk for comparison!)
- Some of our kittens have reached 16lbs by 8 months of age and several are over 20lbs
- "Compared with optimal weight cats, heavy cats were 2.9 times as likely to be taken to veterinarians because of lameness not associated with cat bite abscesses. Obese cats were also 3.9 times as likely to develop diabetes mellitus, 2.3 times as likely to develop nonallergic skin conditions, and 4.9 times as likely to develop lameness requiring veterinary care. Cats considered thin (cachectic and lean) were 1.7 times as likely to be presented to veterinary hospitals for diarrhea." (citation https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9621878/ )
Here are some of the things I have discovered over the years in regards to gender.
- Males are generally larger than females but we have several girls and past kittens that are almost or just as big as some of our boys.
Here are some of the things I have discovered over the years in regards to gender. These are not guaranteed as every cat has their own personality and temperament.
Males
- Generally larger than females (but we have several girls and past kittens that are almost or just as big as some of our boys!)
- Tend to be a little more needy and have a harder time with families that are out of the house for long periods of time or travel often.
- Can spray whether they are neutered or not
- Higher risk for urinary tract issues
- Higher risk for Entropion and dental/mouth issues due to their facial structure.
Females
- Get overlooked because they are female!
- Are a little more independent and for families that travel or are away often I would recommend a female. They also tend to do better for families that want to take them on adventures and outings.
- Can be smaller therefore easier to travel with and carry in a crate.
- Can have issues with the litterbox if they have urinary tract infections.
- We have heard females can be less cuddly and affectionate however, that is not the case for any of our adult girls. All but one of our girls are cuddle bugs and she just doesn't like to be held but will follow me everywhere and lay on my legs.
PAYMENT/PICKUP
- Payment for the cat must be provided in the form of cash upon pickup, personal check or an approved e-payment. Full purchase price must be paid 2 weeks before delivery. The purchaser will pay all travel and shipping expenses. Should the seller agree to help transfer the cat in person, any mileage will be at the expense of the purchaser.
- The kitten must be picked up within 5 days of the agreed upon pick up date otherwise a boarding fee of $20 per day will be charged.
HEALTH GUARANTEE
- The seller will provide purchaser with documentation of vaccinations.
- The seller guarantees the kitten to be in good health at the time of purchase for a period of 48 hours. It will be the responsibility of the purchaser to have the kitten examined by a veterinarian within 48 hours. Within that 48 hour period, if found to be seriously medically deficient, the seller will take the kitten back and refund payment, less the deposit and any shipping charges, under the following conditions: the seller is provided with proper documentation, from a licensed veterinarian, stating the medical issue and that the cat is seriously medically deficient; a second examination by a veterinarian of the seller’s choice corroborates these claims. This cat/kitten is not guaranteed against entropion, respiratory disease, fleas, ringworms or any nuisance disease. After the 48 hour period, the seller can no longer guarantee the cat’s health, except for birth defects.
- The kitten is guaranteed against life-threatening congenital defects until TWO YEARS of age. Should the animal die within that time as a direct result of a congenital defect, the cat will be replaced ONLY if an approved necropsy is performed by a licensed veterinarian at the cost of the Buyer, and a veterinarian’s certificate is provided as proof of cause of death. A replacement will be made of a cat of comparable quality and value as available, at the discretion of the seller. The Buyer must provide the Seller with a copy of the necropsy.
- Seller assumes no liability or responsibility for any veterinary care for this cat after the purchaser takes possession of said cat. Under no circumstances will the seller be responsible for any veterinary bills incurred by the purchaser.
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SPAY/NEUTER AGREEMENT
- This cat is being sold with no breeding rights and on a spay/neuter agreement. TICA registration papers will be provided after proof is of spay/neuter is supplied to seller.
- The buyer agrees that the kitten will be spayed/neutered by the time the kitten reaches EIGHTEEN months of age, or has 3 HEAT CYCLES, whichever comes first, at buyer’s expense. Purchaser will provide the seller with documentation of the spay/neuter. If the cat is not spayed/neutered by EIGHTEEN months of age, or by 3 HEAT CYCLES and/or proof of sterilization is not provided, seller will enforce breach of contract for the maximum dollar amount.
- If the kitten is bred at any time, buyer agrees to pay the seller $4,000. This does not include full breeding rights with TICA. It is up to seller to decide to release those to buyer for an additional fee.
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TREATMENT OF CAT
- Under NO circumstances shall this kitten be de-clawed. Declawing is amputation and is often the cause of litter box problems (“inappropriate elimination”). This can lead to abuse or abandonment of the cat/kitten, a risk that the seller is not willing take. The purchaser agrees to, under no circumstances, allow the cat to be declawed.
- Under NO circumstances shall this kitten/cat be permitted to live outside or in a kennel and will not be permitted outside without a leash or supervision.
- The new cat should be confined to a private room with toys, food, the kitten’s litter box, and plenty of human contact until accustomed to his/her new surroundings. Seller will provide a list of the food the cat has been eating. Please be careful that his or her diet is not changed drastically. The seller will make her best effort to send home a sample of what the cat is eating, as well as a bag of litter the seller uses to help purchaser through the first few days.
BREED CONSIDERATIONS
- Seller does not guarantee, color, size or any physical characteristics of the kitten.
- Buyer understands that breed identification tests are not an accurate proof of breed. Breed cannot be determined by DNA. At most it shows you common DNA between cats that are listed as a purebred.
RELINQUISHMENT OF OWNERSHIP OF CAT OR PERMANENT TRANSFER OF THE KITTEN
- The purchaser agrees that under NO circumstances will the kitten/cat EVER be sold or given to a pet shop, animal shelter, research laboratory, or similar facility.
- Should the purchaser, for any reason, including death, not be able to keep the above kitten, the seller will be given the first option of purchasing the cat for $1.00.
- If the buyer has a living trust, the previous clause must be made note of in the trust; if the seller deems another interested party (e.g., family member of buyer; close friend of buyer) a desirable and willing owner, the seller will seriously consider transferring ownership of the kitten/cat.
BREACH OF CONTRACT
- In the event the purchaser is found to have violated any of the terms and conditions of this contract, the cat is to be surrendered unconditionally to the seller. Seller may reclaim physical and legal ownership of cat with or without due process of law for any breach of contract with no refund of purchase price.
- In the event the purchaser is found to have violated any of the terms of this contract, purchaser shall be liable to the seller for damages in the amount of two times the purchase price of said cat/kitten, plus expenses for veterinarian care upon return of cat/kitten to seller and all attorney, legal and related miscellaneous fees that result in litigating this contract. Any legal action, which may arise under the terms of this contract, will be brought in the county/city of seller’s residence.
ATTORNEYS FEES AND OUT-OF-POCKET COSTS
- Should Purchaser breach this Contract, Purchaser is responsible for any and all costs resulting from the litigation of this Contract, the amount of purchase of kitten, shipping expenses, associated veterinary expenses, and any damages caused to the reputation of seller.
EXCLUSIVE JURISDICTION FOR SUIT IN CASE OF BREACH
- Any legal action that may arise under the terms of this Contract will be brought to Pima County, or the Seller’s current place of residence. The Purchaser and Seller, by entering into this Agreement, submit to jurisdiction in Tucson, Arizona or the Seller’s current place of residence, for adjudication of any disputes and/or claims between the parties under this Agreement. Furthermore, the Purchaser and Seller hereby agree that the courts of Pima County or the Seller’s current place of residence, shall have exclusive jurisdiction over any disputes between the parties relative to this agreement, whether said dispute(s) sounds in contract, tort, or other areas of the law.
STATE LAW
- This Agreement shall be interpreted under, and governed by, the laws of the state of Arizona.
INTEGRATION
- There are no other conditions or guarantees, verbal or implied. No verbal deviations or additions are valid.
- No other warranties or guarantees are provided other than those specifically outlined in this Contract. All prior agreements, representations and warranties, express or implied, oral or written, with respect to the subject matter hereof, are hereby superseded by this contract.
SEVERABILITY
- In the event any provision of this contract is deemed to be void, invalid, or unenforceable, that provision shall be severed from the remainder of this contract so as not to cause the invalidity or unenforceability of the remainder of this contract. All remaining provisions of this contract shall then continue in full force and effect. If any provision shall be deemed invalid due to its scope or breadth, such provision shall be deemed valid to the extent of the scope and breadth permitted by law.
MODIFICATION
-Except as otherwise provided in this document, this agreement may be modified, superseded, or voided only upon the written and signed agreement of the Purchaser and Seller. Further, the physical destruction or loss of this document shall not be construed as a modification or termination of the agreement contained herein.
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